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Re: Andy Hodd

hailsham chris wrote:

Why dont you get off his back, his keeping has been superb.
He scored 37 and 18 at Cardiff, 7 and dnb against Surrey, he only got 1 and 2 at Bristol, but then its a bowler friendly wicket.
So on what basis do you think they should be considering his starting position.
Quite frankly, IMHO, you are talking like a pillock.

if he caries on like he did last season. as for it being a bowler friendly wicket, you could use it for anyone a good batsman dosnt blame the wicket. what would you think if surry sayd that

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I do agree with you chris, I think Hoddy is great. Nobody can scoring consistently all the time (except from Bradman) while every one goes through tough times, look at Muzza last year. Things will put themselves right and Hoddy will score runs, you cannot put too much pressure on him to perform straight away in April. I welcome competition but you cannot suggest that he is going down hill judging on performances in April.

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dr sla wrote:
hailsham chris wrote:

Why dont you get off his back, his keeping has been superb.
He scored 37 and 18 at Cardiff, 7 and dnb against Surrey, he only got 1 and 2 at Bristol, but then its a bowler friendly wicket.
So on what basis do you think they should be considering his starting position.
Quite frankly, IMHO, you are talking like a pillock.

if he caries on like he did last season. as for it being a bowler friendly wicket, you could use it for anyone a good batsman dosnt blame the wicket. what would you think if surry sayd that


Last season, was last season, you could have said the same about RMJ, but look at the start he has had.
This is the earliest start to a CC ever and because Hoddy is only averaging 13 after 5 innings you are suggesting dropping him.

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Well I agree that its too early to judge the guy but he should not be batting in the top six. By batting him there, obviously expectations will be higher and he has done nothing this season or last to justify a place in the top six. However he is an excellent keeper and because of our lack of available batsmen, then needs must I suppose.

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Blimey, what is the matter with people, ok he shouldn't be batting at six, but if Joyce was fit, if Yards and Luke weren't at the Micky Mouse world cup, he wouldn't be, so do we drop a great keeper because of it. DOH roll

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Hey Chris, read my posts, I'm certainly not saying drop him.

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Sorry Jonboy, still wound up by Dr Sla's post. Just cant understand why Hoddy is getting picked on.

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With Matt playing ,finally , I supose Dr Sla thinks we could bring in another bat . But there is no one and Hodd certainly kept superbly last week . You cannot judge his batting on 2 failures this game, the guy is a brilliant wicketkeeper and will score runs.

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Personally I'd like to see the in form Tucker bat at six against Leicestershire and let Hoddy bat in his usual spot at seven. It may stop the middle order slump and take some of the pressure off Hoddy at the same time.

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SPSL11 wrote:

With Matt playing ,finally , I supose Dr Sla thinks we could bring in another bat . But there is no one and Hodd certainly kept superbly last week . You cannot judge his batting on 2 failures this game, the guy is a brilliant wicketkeeper and will score runs.

it's not the last two games of the season that I am counting, I'm including just over half of last season when he rarely been performed that were with the fact.  The good example was the Yorkshire game at Hove where it took him near enough in our to get his first run, I've never been to any sporting event were a noticed so much sarcastic clapping before in my life

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hailsham chris wrote:
dr sla wrote:
hailsham chris wrote:

Why dont you get off his back, his keeping has been superb.
He scored 37 and 18 at Cardiff, 7 and dnb against Surrey, he only got 1 and 2 at Bristol, but then its a bowler friendly wicket.
So on what basis do you think they should be considering his starting position.
Quite frankly, IMHO, you are talking like a pillock.

if he caries on like he did last season. as for it being a bowler friendly wicket, you could use it for anyone a good batsman dosnt blame the wicket. what would you think if surry sayd that


Last season, was last season, you could have said the same about RMJ, but look at the start he has had.
This is the earliest start to a CC ever and because Hoddy is only averaging 13 after 5 innings you are suggesting dropping him.

no not thet but their is a good charnce we could lose brown, i think we should give him a charnce. hodd form isnt the best lately and i am county last season as well. all i am saying is that just becouse we have Hodd dosent meain that he is untoucnerball...

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People seem to keep mentioning RMJ and Muzza's poor form last year as an example of sticking with people who go through a bad patch but they have done so, so much in the past to deserve a stay of grace, Hodd has to perform or what sort of message does it send to Ben Brown? no matter how well you perform you won't get in?

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I understand there is a fine line between sticking with a squad and showing too much loyalty. I promote competition within the team but I would not like to see the team being chopped or changed too regulary. I think it is healthy for the side that Brown is pushing Hodd and that the line-up isn't just always picking itself but you have allow time to perform.

But I do understand where everybody is coming from.

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if he hasn't scored any serious runs come mid-season then maybe time for a change but not in april!

ps  not been about much -  well done to the team, management and all of you! happy times.

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mike-by-the-sea wrote:

if he hasn't scored any serious runs come mid-season then maybe time for a change but not in april!

ps  not been about much -  well done to the team, management and all of you! happy times.

mike-in-cornwall

well put, beter than me

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sussexshark64 wrote:

I understand there is a fine line between sticking with a squad and showing too much loyalty. I promote competition within the team but I would not like to see the team being chopped or changed too regulary. I think it is healthy for the side that Brown is pushing Hodd and that the line-up isn't just always picking itself but you have allow time to perform.

But I do understand where everybody is coming from.

all i am saying within the last year Hodd has not performed that brilliantly, and it's not just me saying that I have heard that from many of the fans at the County ground.

Last edited by dr sla (23-04-2010 18:02:24)

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Also to be considered is that Matty will have to go behind the stumps soon if he is playing on that position on the summer test matches

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With all due respect to Hoddy, I can see something strange in the fact that England's Test Wicketkeeper is not playing in that position for his county.

But at least until Ed is back we have to cover as best we can and the Hodd/Prior combination is best option. And what a sparkling slip fielder Matty is becoming.

But the point that at some time Hoddy has to perform is valid. I don't think we can carry him for the whole season like we did Muzza. So I hope he gets some runs under his belt next match and silence the doubters.

Last edited by Insurance Man (23-04-2010 20:25:27)

  • From: Fishersgate Maritime Village
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yes the general point that Hodd needs to get some runs to keep his place is, of course, absolutely right - the tricky question is how long you give him

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Well I think you give him these first five matches at least.

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Insurance Man wrote:

Well I think you give him these first five matches at least.

in total or in alforms

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Hoddy needs to be given a long chance, and I am sure that this will happen. 

We've worried for the last few seasons that he's not getting enough chances.  Now is the time for him to be given those chances. 

He has real talent and ability, and so does Ben Brown.  Time will tell who the better player is, and whether there's room for both of them (and Matt Prior) at Sussex, but the way to go about finding the answers to those questions is most definitely not to chop and change.  Consistency of selection is absolutely critical in allowing players to develop and flourish.  Very often this means giving a  player a longer chance than many fans feel comfortable with.

Fortunately I know that the SCCC management are well aware of this, as they have shown in recent seasons.

Last edited by Zaremba (23-04-2010 21:39:24)

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I was talking LV2 dr sla, the one day stuff is a different kettle of fish.

I take your point Zaremba but somewhere there has to be a limit otherwise there's little point Brown being on the books. But I agree, I think Hodd does have the talent and I hope it comes through.

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Zaremba wrote:

Hoddy needs to be given a long chance, and I am sure that this will happen. 

We've worried for the last few seasons that he's not getting enough chances.  Now is the time for him to be given those chances. 

He has real talent and ability, and so does Ben Brown.  Time will tell who the better player is, and whether there's room for both of them (and Matt Prior) at Sussex, but the way to go about finding the answers to those questions is most definitely not to chop and change.  Consistency of selection is absolutely critical in allowing players to develop and flourish.  Very often this means giving a  player a longer chance than many fans feel comfortable with.

Fortunately I know that the SCCC management are well aware of this, as they have shown in recent seasons.

at what cost i agree with Insurance Man and Sweatycock. ben has a good reputasion with england and will lose it if he says behind andy and its the last year of his contract

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well it will be interesting how this all develops this year - remember Matt will want some practice with the gloves at some stage before England duties !