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well its early days, but im encouraged by his start - hes devilishly accurate which gives us control at one end as well as wickets, but i dont think hes going to rip through a team a la Mushy - but he offers a different type of threat
A mixed first game for Monty with Chris Nash taking the spinner limelight; but 4 wickets in a championship game is a solid start.
Expectation is a problem after the Mushy miracle. The little man was a one-off and the idea that Monty will simply step into his boots is asking too much.
Monty is his own man with his own style. It may take him awhile to adjust to a new team. Hopefully, he'll rediscover his old form and come to the fore when the pitches become more spinner-friendly in the mid to latter part of the summer.
Meanwhile, let Nash bask in the limelight if he continues to take two wickets in three balls! 
Yes I think we need to understand that Monty offers a completely different option to Mushy - Monty gives us accuracy and control -he'll regularly bowl 20 or so overs for very few runs and a few wickets - this i feel will be fine and will keep the pressure on the opposition, with perhaps others reaping the benefit
Expect the wickets to be evenly distributed this year, as a consequence
His record suggests he can be better than that in terms of wickets taken, doesn't it? In any case a few wickets every 20 overs sounds like a good strike rate.
I agree about the potential to exert control and pressure. It'll be interesting to see how he varies his approach accordint to the wicket and the match situation.
Still, he gives the side an excellent spin bowling option and some classy batting 
I think he is not only take wickets,not on the same level as mushy but still believe he will take 50 wickets and he will allow the likes of nasher and ollie bowl from the other end and do damage with wickets taken and it was a great start to montys career at sussex.
I think he is not only take wickets,not on the same level as mushy but still believe he will take 50 wickets and he will allow the likes of nasher and ollie bowl from the other end and do damage with wickets taken and it was a great start to montys career at sussex.
If he was to take four wickets every game he would finish with sixty-four wickets at the end of the season. He's made a good start.
I find the Robbo interview on 'Sussex TV', recorded during the Glamorgan game, quite revealing Re: Monty. "During his first over, he was as nervous as a kitten," smiles a rather bemused manager. "Surprising for someone with his Test record."
Perhaps, in the past, Monty tasted success; found both the expectations and fame too stressful; and was not mature enough to handle them?
I was a little sceptical, at first, of the signing, but so long as Monty matures as a player and more importantly, as a person, I believe we could see a new man emerge this season. Now happily married and ensconced in a nurturing, family-orientated county side, all the ingredients are there for him to blossom.
Unlike Mushy, he is not a match-winner or partnership-breaker... yet; but given time and a bit of luck - along with a good dose of confidence - Monty may surprise us all.
We all want Monty to do well and most of us would like to see him bowl in tandem with one of the other spinners. As an unashamed fan of Will Beer can he be mentioned as a potential partner or is this role exclusive to Ollie?
I heard that Will is captain of the 2nd's at Horsham, surely that must indicate how highly he might be rated by the coaching staff. So far he seems to be doing OK.
I hope all three spinners put enough pressure on each other so they all perform. That would be good for Sussex and make selection interesting.
I don't see why Will in one-day cricket and Ollie in championship cricket can't have a role to play later in the season when the pitches may dictate the need to play two spinners on a regular basis.
I hope all three spinners put enough pressure on each other so they all perform. That would be good for Sussex and make selection interesting.
It's not three, it's four as Nash is developing fast as a spinner
I don't see why Will in one-day cricket and Ollie in championship cricket can't have a role to play later in the season when the pitches may dictate the need to play two spinners on a regular basis.
A bit of a shift from your previous position of Ollie must play CC even if pitches dictate a seam attack.
Personally, I think we may do better in spinning conditions to utilise Nash's bowling more and perhaps pick an extra batsman, especially if we are missing some of our senior players to internationals and injury.
A bit of a shift from your previous position of Ollie must play CC even if pitches dictate a seam attack.
Personally, I think we may do better in spinning conditions to utilise Nash's bowling more and perhaps pick an extra batsman, especially if we are missing some of our senior players to internationals and injury.
It is up to Rayner and Beer to perform at a level which demands first team selection. Playing an exta batsmen or bowler works as Lancashire game proved last season.
Nash was originallly selected as a sole spinner, coming in and batting at number 9. So he definately has potential to become a more than useful spinner, he has said he enjoys bowling which is a good thing
I would definitely put Nash's bowling on a par with Michael Vaughan's, who sadly had to almost give it up because of his knees. You're right SS64 in that Nash has had a good grounding in spin bowling, it's just his success as a batsman has overshadowed it a bit
ravenshill wrote:A bit of a shift from your previous position of Ollie must play CC even if pitches dictate a seam attack.
Personally, I think we may do better in spinning conditions to utilise Nash's bowling more and perhaps pick an extra batsman, especially if we are missing some of our senior players to internationals and injury.
It is up to Rayner and Beer to perform at a level which demands first team selection. Playing an exta batsmen or bowler works as Lancashire game proved last season.
I'm sure it was more a case of here's Ollie's name, now for the other 10. 
Not at all BP as you well know!
I find the Robbo interview on 'Sussex TV', recorded during the Glamorgan game, quite revealing Re: Monty. "During his first over, he was as nervous as a kitten," smiles a rather bemused manager. "Surprising for someone with his Test record."
Perhaps, in the past, Monty tasted success; found both the expectations and fame too stressful; and was not mature enough to handle them?
I was a little sceptical, at first, of the signing, but so long as Monty matures as a player and more importantly, as a person, I believe we could see a new man emerge this season. Now happily married and ensconced in a nurturing, family-orientated county side, all the ingredients are there for him to blossom.
Unlike Mushy, he is not a match-winner or partnership-breaker... yet; but given time and a bit of luck - along with a good dose of confidence - Monty may surprise us all.
Funny, I was observing the same thing about Monty being nervous on the pitch at Hove today. Perhaps it is the weight of expectation, but I expect all will change when he takes wickets consistently.
7 wickets at 23 at less than 2 an over is a decent start for the Montster
7 wickets at 23 at less than 2 an over is a decent start for the Montster
Monty bowled 48.4 overs and conceded only 98 runs. Just bowling lot of overs should give him a chance of getting back to his best again.
Nice article about Monty by Vic Marks in the Observer:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ap … ex-england
Quote "Could be the signing of the summer...."
Presently, Monty is seen as an underdog and the media like an underdog. It is a fair article, in my view. Given the spinner only took 18 wickets in 13 championship games last season, his present 7 from two matches is a good start.
Stage 1 is to help Monty rebuild his confidence and self-belief. So, offer him lots of overs and if he only takes tail-ender wickets, so be it. They are still wickets and the more he takes, the more his confidence will grow.
Stage 2 is for the spinner coach (is Mushy still involved?) to help him vary his arsenal more.
As Marks states, Monty is a mechanical bowler and lacks the guile and intuition of Warne or Mushtaq. To say he lacks cricket nouse, is a little unfair, although to be blunt, Monty needs to mature both as a person and as a cricketer. Hopefully, married life and his new nurturing, family-orientated team will help.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ap … -squad-out
Probably news that we expected, but a great incentive for Monty to prove the selectors wrong. Encouraging words from Robbo also.
Nice piece by RMJ about Monty....
i think that monty will go on to be an astute signing for the club, especially in the four day stuff. having a spinner such as monty will allow us to rotate our seamers from one end, while monty, while always possessing a good wicket-taking threat, can keep things tight from the other. i remember how michael vaughan used to do this with ashley giles and then having the choice of hoggard, harmison, flintoff and simon jones from the other end - which worked so well during the 2005 ashes series.
so, i think that while monty won't take bucket loads of wickets like mushy did, he will create opportunites for others to take wickets because he is accurate and economical, and he can bowl many overs consecutively.
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