Topic: England Players Resting Periods

I have sent the following question to the ECB:

"Please can somebody explain to me why it is likely that Matthew Prior is going to be required by the ECB to sit out of the important first match of the new Championship season, on the grounds that he needs to rest, whilst Kevin Pietersen and Paul Collingwood are allowed to play in the trivial IPL series ?

Further - can you explain how this fits with the ECB strategy of developing test match cricketers in this country?

Thank you"

I will let you know what response I get.

Surrey 205 and 243. Sussex 416 and 33-0.

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Especially as Matt is not required to go to WI (ie dropped) and presumably wants to redemonstrate his ability. There appears no logic...it would be nice if he could play as a batsman and Hoddy as keeper....

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A very good question that Jim May should be asking !!

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Really is pathetic that he has been told to rest!

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there isnt a lot of logic in this (have we had official confirmation by the way) - if Matt was going to world cup, you can see a case, but otherwise i really dont understand the decision

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If he really appreciates his job for what it is then he would want to do nothing more than play cricket whenever possible. This is I suppose the main downside to central contracts sad

Murray Goodwin is my God.

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i suppose its possible that Matt has some sort of minor injury, which requires a bit of recovery time - but would be nice to be told

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If fit he should play i am sure he wants to this is what he does for love not just money.

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He could have just asked for an extra week off to be at home with his wee one, as I'm sure he has missed out a bit with being away for long periods

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Back from my hols now and not much has been going on. Congratulations to Yards for his 2020 selection, I think he could do well for England, although its not such good news for Sussex. With us always at the mercy of the the ECB over Prior, to be fair they do pay his wages, we can ill afford to lose Yards. A top six of Nash, Yardy, Joyce, Goodwin, Prior and Wright is as good as any in this division, take out Yardy, Joyce, Prior and Wright and we're in trouble. Nash, Machan, Thornley, Goodwin, Gatting and Hodd doesn't look so strong.
Were Muzza again to struggle for for form, I dread to think how we'ed cope.
It looks as if its going to be Rana as our locum overseas and I don't have a problem with that. Fingers crossed its the Rana of old and with some good old Sussex TLC, maybe he can become a top wicket taker for us once again. I still think if we can post the big totals, then spin will be our best chance of success.

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Jonboy

With the sun now shining are you going to venture into one of the most beautiful places on earth to watch cricket ie The Parks.

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During the summer I sometimes catch a bit of cricket though I run there most nights. To be honest I want to try and watch a lot more of Sussex this year but working in the events industry it isn't easy. Plenty of time off in the winter but pretty much six days a week in the summer.

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Good one John but I'll be surprised if you even get a reply!

Run Outs?  When I was at school (in the Dark Ages!), the only offence more criminal was fielding the ball with one's foot which warranted an even sounder thrashing!

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Well - here's the reply:


Hello Jon

thanks for your email

don't think we've announced any details yet of contracted players county commitments

that's at the discretion of the England management, and all the counties buy into the concept

players' decisions to play abroad in free windows in the calendar is just that, their decisions; and the form that Collingwood and Pietersen can build in the IPL can only help ahead of the ICC World Twenty20

best wishes

ECB Feedback

Surrey 205 and 243. Sussex 416 and 33-0.

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Surely then Prior can play, as we are 'playing abroad' on Friday.  smile

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Thats illuminating...England management can stop you playing for your county in a free period but you are always free to go overseas to play

Last edited by triple century (06-04-2010 11:42:55)

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aewparsons wrote:

players' decisions to play abroad in free windows in the calendar is just that, their decisions; and the form that Collingwood and Pietersen can build in the IPL can only help ahead of the ICC World Twenty20

The first half of the sentence is how things are. The second half is completely fatuous - otherwise they would let Matt play county cricket to get in form for the tests.

Amazingly casual reply all in all - is this a wind up, aewp? wink

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"players' decisions to play abroad in free windows in the calendar is just that, their decisions"

Er I thought they had contracts (even though greedy *** wont sign them).

Bell and Trott apparently start for us on Friday.

The Kookaburra Man

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aewparsons wrote:

Well - here's the reply:


Hello Jon

thanks for your email

don't think we've announced any details yet of contracted players county commitments

that's at the discretion of the England management, and all the counties buy into the concept

players' decisions to play abroad in free windows in the calendar is just that, their decisions; and the form that Collingwood and Pietersen can build in the IPL can only help ahead of the ICC World Twenty20

best wishes

ECB Feedback


Dear ECB feedback,
                              Thank you for your prompt response.I note that you indicate players decisions to play overseas in free periods were their own.However I thought players had contracts and needed your consent and an NOC.
More specifically have ECB restricted any players from playing in the county championship during their free period and if so whom and why?
Best Regards
Confused

Last edited by triple century (06-04-2010 12:15:10)

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Well maybe he does want more time off and fancies sitting Cardiff out, only been back a couple of weeks from a month in Bangladesh, having been there myself i think you need a bit of time to recover.

Cardiff in early April Mmm. It was cold enough there last year watching a few days of the Ashes, that was later on in the season as well.

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jonboy wrote:

A top six of Nash, Yardy, Joyce, Goodwin, Prior and Wright is as good as any in this division, take out Yardy, Joyce, Prior and Wright and we're in trouble. Nash, Machan, Thornley, Goodwin, Gatting and Hodd doesn't look so strong.
Were Muzza again to struggle for for form, I dread to think how we'ed cope.

And to think some of us dared suggest that we needed another batsman....  roll

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triple century wrote:

Thats illuminating...England management can stop you playing for your county in a free period but you are always free to go overseas to play

Sure it isn't just the ECB quaking in the presence of the IPL? I mean, if Collingwood and Pietersen fancied a 'rest' instead, their franchise and mr. modi wouldn't allow them to even consider it. I could understand that they would feel obliged to play due to the money they recieve, but surely the ECB would not want to step on the IPL's toes for the fear of losing potential income.
I agree the system is wrong and slightly twisted. It isn't right that counties should miss out on their best players for an enforced rest. I agree the players might be tired, but they have not played for a fair time and I am sure Prior wants some big scores under his belt before the return Bangladesh series.

Murray Goodwin is my God.

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Ardcarran wrote:
aewparsons wrote:

players' decisions to play abroad in free windows in the calendar is just that, their decisions; and the form that Collingwood and Pietersen can build in the IPL can only help ahead of the ICC World Twenty20

The first half of the sentence is how things are. The second half is completely fatuous - otherwise they would let Matt play county cricket to get in form for the tests.

Amazingly casual reply all in all - is this a wind up, aewp? wink

Most definitely not. I've not sent a follow up question yet.

Surrey 205 and 243. Sussex 416 and 33-0.

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And that is why I fear for the future of county cricket when it is the hand of these clowns.

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Why is it that, by squeezing the IPL in after the Bangladesh tour the ECB  feel KP and Colly can build form for the T20 - while at the same time they want to cut down the CC to give players more rest.

Are these positions compatible?

Last edited by KimJones (06-04-2010 19:45:58)

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